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Join us here in The Bistro for a discussion on the entire Gamache series. Feel free to ask or answer any questions about any of the books or the series as a whole.

Discussion on “The Bistro”

I looked up the Cerf Argente Nancy, and the it looks lovely. Very Three Pines. Which room did you have? They all look very cosy.

Anna,
We all stayed two nights (except for one couple who were leaving for California two days later and needed to go home to pack!). We were in the Spring room but got a chance to peek at all of them as we filled four of the five room (the last was empty). We had the place to ourselves the first night which made it very special. We were told that one of the former owners was an artist and he was responsible for all the tile work. It was gorgeous! It was all I could have hoped for as a celebration of our 50th. We don’t normally do big celebrations. On the 14th we were living in Toronto and went to the Royal York to see a woman who played in West Side Story…of course I can’t remember her name…just because I want to. And our 25th was out of this world. The church put on a fabulous celebration complete with mock wedding (we were moving and they wanted to give us a farewell). Nothing could ever compare with that. And one year here in Montreal we went to see Tina Turner. So we mostly do “low key” but this year was very special and our celebration was just right.

Hi All,
We just got back from two nights in the Eastern Townships (Three Pines Country). We took some friends along and celebrated our 50th wedding anniversary. Even though the weather was rainy the company made it a wonderful experience. We stayed at a lovely B&B called Cerf Argente and couldn’t have asked for a better place or more lovely people. My friend had to “tweet” a picture of the breakfast because she thought it was so beautiful. (The owners were involved in the radio play of on of Louise’s books in April.) We were four couples and I asked them to each bring a picture from their wedding as well as at least one story. That made for an interesting evening. On the way home we stopped at Brome Lake Books and had our picture taken in the corner that is “Myrna’s Bookstore”. It was such a wonderful anniversary being surrounded by warm and loving friends…and then our daughter had made a lovely celebration dinner to greet us when we returned.

Congratulations on your Golden Anniversary Nancy. What a lovely way to celebrate! Did you go into Brome Lake Books? I was wondering if Danny had his Guest book operational?

Yes Anna, we went into Brome Lake Books and it’s a lovely store. Lots of books with covers facing outward so temptation is on every side. I didn’t see a guest book but then I wasn’t looking for it. Too busy trying to look at books. There was a new Anne Hillerman (she’s continuing in her father’s series) that I knew nothing about. Was thrilled. Lucy (I assume it was Lucy but I confess I didn’t ask her name) was very warm and welcoming. She gave us a Three Pines Inspiration map for the next time we visit the area.

Congratulations, Nancy! What a wonderful way to celebrate – I’m very jealous! It sounds like you had such a marvelous time!

I’ve been MIA lately – so sorry. I’ve been down with pneumonia, and not turned on my computer for about a week. I HAD to get on today to register for an upcoming seminar before all the good “extra events” were booked, so thought I’d drop in and say hello. I was stunned by Louise’s last newsletter – so sad for her and Michael, and was especially feeling so when she said she had promised Michael that they wouldn’t leave their beloved home, but now they had to. I can imagine the agony that caused her, and I’m so glad that they found someplace in a little bit larger of a village with more society and amenities close by. At first, I thought she was going to say they had to move to Montreal, and while I’m sure there are lots of wonderful places to live there, I can still see how much her heart is in those villages in Quebec.

Love the discussion about the General Store in the “Places” section – I remember those stores when they all had the post office in them – I can imagine they were places of a real feeling of community. Kind of like the Bistro…

I am so sorry to hear you have been ill Julie. I hope you are feeling better. Be kind to yourself as it takes time to fully recover. Thinking of you from across the water!

Julie, Hope you are much improved. A friend was released from the hospital Tues. after 13 days of treatment for Pneumonia. Her dog was thrilled. They always do make such a to do when we’ve been away don’t they.
The next quote is on LP’s Facebook. Is Gamache sitting on a stage or is it someone else ? Do actors have a role in NOTB ? Interesting.
I hope everyone is doing well today.
We were at a brunch and bingo with a group yesterday and had croissants. Of course, I though of the Bistro.
Warm and caring thoughts to all.

Thank you all for your kind thoughts. I am, indeed, very much improved, and feel almost completely well except that I’m still so fatigued. Hopefully, that will pass soon. I have so many plans that have been put on hold – very unfair! hahaha

I normally gobble up Louise’s books but of course circumstances have slowed my reread of The Brutal Telling significantly and I have only just reached the part where Clara meets Therese Brunel by the statue of Emily Carr and Therese looks through Clara’s portfolio. Clara has painted herself as The Fall, The Fall from Grace. When Therese asks what she is afraid of, Clara replies that she is afraid she won’t recognise Paradise.

This has all been so resonant with the little we know of TNOTB. It also made me think of Louise’s newsletter and reading between the lines I sense how perhaps her house was Paradise, but then so was Jamaica and so is Knowlton and the people in it. I suspect Paradise is not a place but a feeling. In turn that feeling imbues houses and spaces with the sense of place and so our idea of Paradise. But Paradise is always within us.

Anna, Good news that your Dad may come home this weekend. I decided to try to change some things about me that would help with the stress. Walking some in the early AM while it is still cool, even if only in the back yard. The idea of being outdoors seems very appealing to me. I find nature very calming. I’ve made a list of parks and walking trails nearby (only 5 or 6 miles from the house at the most). I’ll drive to them and then walk some. There are two music series (outdoors and at night) and I hope to attend some of the performances. Reading novels is just not interesting right now so I’m going to try poetry and maybe some plays.
Please take care of yourself as I told Catheryne. I have been where both of you are now and I trust both of you as well as anyone else dealing with parental care will be smarter than I was. Take care of your own emotional and physical health, please. I know I sound like an old woman giving advice and I am. I hope a little hard learned wisdom can help others.
Good thoughts.

Thank u for the advice Barbara. I will try but it’s not easy. I am glad to hear you are getting early sun and gentle exercise. These are good things for the restoration of equilibrium. However, it is not good that you are feeling stressed. Must be the trend at the moment. Sending you calming thoughts and lots of praise for proactively managing your distress.

I wish I could say I have been equally proactive. I did more of a meltdown tantrum thing. I will endeavour to do better. I did relate heavily to Louise’s latest newsletter. I felt her dismay at realising they would have to move and her relief when the decision was made. I am so glad they have a supportive community around them and they can move closer to that community.

When we moved to our current home it was a displacement for Mum and dad. They really know no-one here at all. I know only a handful after four and a half years. The people component of our sense of place has been disrupted.

Cathryne, I hope your Mother is recovering. I can identify with you. The description of looking out the window at the lights was lovely. I know well what you were feeling and am very thankful for The Bistro and all of you. I would have never thought that the caring, concern and warmth we share could be felt through a computer screen. Remember to take care of yourself too. Good thoughts to you.

Amy, “Is it like dog years?” made me laugh too. I decided when I was at the hospital with my mom last week that they definitely use dog minutes, as in, “It’ll just be a few minutes.”

Ah yes…..hospital time…..it moves very differently to the outside world. Sorry to here your Mum has been unwell Cathryne. I had a very clear image of you beside her and then in the dark with the gummy bears. I must say there has been much comfort food consumption in this household too. How is your Mum now? How are you?
We are making plans to get my dad home from hospital maybe on the weekend. There has been much walking around the house looking to see if further modifications can be made to make it easier although we have done a lot already.
Barbara, I am anxious for you too. Are things any better? Sending both you and Cathryne peace and calm and the warmth of the Bistro. I suspect there are gummy bears on the counter next to the liquorice pipes……

“And there is calm that comes with simplicity.” Perfect.
Thank you, Barbara, for pointing out the arrival of the June newsletter. Mine always gets sent to Junk and I have to retrieve it. It was filled with grace and wisdom and heartfelt honesty and I was grateful to read it.

Barbara, I hope things are better for you today. Don’t forget the warm fire at the Bistro. I spent last Friday night sleeping on the floor on a soft foam mattress in my mom’s living room, her first night home from an emergency hospital stay. When I went to get her pres. at the drugstore, I said, “Do you have gummy bears?” The darling girl at the register said, “Oh yes, I know exactly where they are. I love gummy bears!” After lights out, I lay in the quiet dark and slowly savored gummy bears, one at a time. I haven’t had one for decades, but I knew I needed the Bistro and friends and little sweet bears. When I stood up on my knees, I could look out the window and see the lights of the city and the lights of the long bridge across the bay, beautiful. Chaos retreated. I send my best thoughts to you for your own calm!

LP’s June newsletter is beautiful and heartbreaking. She gives so much to us. After a meltdown of my own last night, her mentioning the Serenity Prayer was just what I needed to face today. I have often prayed it in the past but needed the reminder that now is another time I need to truly let it be a part of my life.
Peace and good thoughts to all.

Barbara, beautiful and heartbreaking sums it up perfectly. The photos through the window, the lilacs, the pond and the bench becoming memories. So sad. Yet, there is gratitude for what was, acceptance of what is and hope along with trepidation for the future. And always love.

Amy, your comment of, “Is it like dog years,” really made me laugh. The last few weeks have felt like ‘dog years’ to me. Does anyone else feel like either nothing significant is happening or a complete 180 turn and there are so many things going on at once you can hardly catch your breath? Well, other than our dear Anna, who is certainly in the middle of a ‘whirlwind’ phase… Gentle, warm thoughts to all who may be in one of the whirlwinds, including Jan…

I’ve been relistening to the books from SL as I plod along and I’m almost to the end of Bury Your Dead. I think I now understand why so many have said it’s your favorite. I had only read it once and found the part of the story about Agent Morin so painful, I didn’t fully appreciate the complexity of the story as a whole.

Several of the Three Piners mentioned feeling a certain discomfort reading TLWH because of not liking confrontation. I’ve come to realize I shy away from reading books with too much physical or emotional pain. I will read them once in their entirety, but then put bookmarks to skip past the really painful (for me at least) parts. Yet, one can’t really do that with this book.

I’m glad I didn’t skip this one and jump to the next – I would have missed so much. And I have all who made speculations about NOTB and insightful comments about other books in the series to thank. As I read the posts each triggered a thought but I could either attend to ‘stuff’ or gab away here. It wasn’t an easy choice! 😉
But I did want to pop in and say hello, I’m OK, and I’m more grateful for the Bistro every day.

Glad to hear from you. You’ve been missed. Those of you who are rereading/listening again are ahead of me. I didn’t want to reread again at this time so I’ve been rereading the comments from the reread. That ” too many books, too little time ” mentality, again.
When NOTB comes out, maybe those who posted regularly during the reread and when TLWH came out will do so again.
Good reading to all.

Thanks, Barbara. I know what you mean. Unfortunately, for me, I didn’t participate in the ‘re-reads’ until the the actual reading of TLWH.

That’s an interesting question, Anna! My curiosity was piqued, so I went back to A Fatal Grace, and in Chapter 10 it has Clara meeting Gamache in her home. States “she hadn’t seen him for more than a year, since Jane’s murder.” The rest of the books seem to follow in season; with AFG at Christmas time, then TCM at Easter, ARAM in summer, TBT in fall, BYD ending up in winter again; is that 1 year? then ATOTL in spring, TBM in fall, HTLGI in winter; year 2? TLWH in summer . S if we add the year between Jane’s murder and AFG, is that only 3 years that have passed in Three Pines world? Is it like dog years?!

Wow Amy, well done. I haven’t had the time to go over everything. I have assumed season follows season and there can’t have been too much time passing. Good clue from AFG!

Maybe we need a companion book to the novels!

I forgot to post that I sent in our ideas on Intergenerational living in Nursing Homes. I sent the information along with ideas and suggestions we had spoken about. Maybe if nothing else, the idea will be implemented as new Nursing Homes are built. GRU, Medical School will be more receptive of ideas, I hope, with the change coming. Current Head leaving. I explained what this group is and how we shared info. I’ll be sure to let all know if I hear anything. I don’t expect to until I read it in the paper or see it on the News. I feel, though, that we have planted a seed for change.

Well done Barbara. You never know how a planted seed will grow. I shouldn’t expect a rapid change but maybe someone, somewhere will make a small change as a result. All progress is progress.

Jan, please speak about whatever, whenever as your need or your interests lead you. It was very hard for me to share for an while. Everyone was so helpful and caring. The Bistro became a ploace where I go often. Sometimes just to see what is new and sometimes to reread posts. I even go back to the rereads to read some comments again. People who know me best are surprised (to put it mildly) when I attempt to tell them about our group. We love LP’s books and enjoy discussing them with like-minded readers. We do not always agree on a point but I have learned to read more closely. Some of the ideas and purposes for plot lines would never have occurred to me. I love “getting into” the plot.
We are having a beautiful Memorial Day. Not too hot. The sun is beautiful and there is a slight, cool breeze. The Flags look so beautiful as they wave in the air.

I am glad you have good weather Barbara. I have been watching Texas and Oklahoma. my thoughts go to anyone experiencing the scary weather.

We get awful storms and floods and cyclones in different seasons. Just at the moment things are quite settled. We lost a number of people in storms and floods a few weeks ago. Today is sunny but cold. Lots of frost.

Jan, everyone is welcome here and we all love every contribution. I’m sorry if it ever seems hard to join in just because some of us are chatty souls! It’s a very open circle.

I am sorry to hear than you are having struggles of your own. I am sending peace and comforting thoughts in your direction. You don’t have to say anything but if you ever want to there are kind listening ears here. Otherwise, make yourself comfy with the beverage of your choice and soak up the warmth. I find it makes it easier to face the day!

The fact that I felt comfortable sharing is simply down to the amazing folk who potter here in the Bistro. I would never have imagined talking about myself either but there it is…I have. So like Three Pines this space….a little world you stumble upon and you find a hidden gem of comfort and kindness.

I’ve been checking out the reviews for TNOT on Goodreads. After getting over my envy of those who were favoured with advance copies, I was happy to see the reviews are (as usual) glowing. I can’t wait to hold a copy in my hands and jump back into Three Pines. …. I can smell the loam…and the cafe au lait and croissants. Heaven.

You paint a great picture Kim. Glad to hear the reviews are good. We are but weeks away from our next addictive hit! Does anyone have a plan for approaching the book…..a special chair to read in, a favourite beverage at hand….or does it not matter, just leap in as soon as it arrives.

Much gratitude for this lovely extra nudge, Anna. I think the Bistro is just my cup of tea! A truly remarkable site of comfort, inspiration, kindness and acceptance.

I’m all for a cup of tea Jan, in fact I have one now thank goodness. It’s another chilly morning!

Anna, you have put it all together so well. One thing I love about the reread site and the Bistro is how everyone helps me better understand why I love Louise’s books so much and why I continue to get so much pleasure and insight from them over time. I also feel that I’ve become much more able to analyze what I love about other authors and why some just don’t measure up. For many reasons, Louise’s books remain my favorites.

Someone I also love is Kate Atkinson. Has anyone else read and admired her mysteries? I’m thinking I will read her novel before the most recent soon, these not mysteries. I’ve forgotten the name and I’m afraid to look and possibly lose my post. Something about God in the title, God in Ruins?

I haven’t read Kate Atkinson. I will take a look but enjoying The Brutal Telling right now. Have you noticed it is also set in Autumn…the comment about it marching down the hill. Do you think Louise is making a deliberate allusion to her earlier work or was it just time for the next change of season?

Just an aside… but yet somehow related to your post, Anna. Have you noticed that the UK edition of NOTB front cover presents a rather foggy, winter-like picture? (I say this because there appear to be no leaves on the trees.) I’ve never been to England but do recall much emphasis on fog and gloom there year-round in literature by British authors. But why the contrast in book covers for the same story? Do take care Anna. I have “been there” with some of the family issues confronting you and know it can be immensely stressful. Thoughtful blessings sent your way each and every day.

Thank you Jan. I appreciate every comment and every comforting thought. I always feel safe and nurtured here in the Bistro, a calm spot in a tumultuous world.

With regard to the covers…..the experience of autumn may vary a little depending on whether there are evergreens as well as deciduous trees around and how fast the leaves fall? Or it could be that covers with a wintery look say mystery in England? They do to me I think. There is a sense of desolation…..

Funny Julie….I read your comment and thought Into The Woods which my brother went to on the weekend, a high school production of the musical, and it’s one of Millie’s favourites. Lots of metaphor there!

Thank you so much Anna. I truly have been identifying with your struggles but am one who does not just jump in readily to group sharing with people who already have established quite a wonderful history of closeness and support.

Guess I am really stuck about the trees on the UK book cover. They do appear to be mostly deciduous ones which have shed their leaves, so it seems to me that the folks in UK
might be getting an entirely different mind-set when reading the teaser about autumn colors and sly references to the fall season as well as “falling” in a metaphysical sense when they see a wintery scene on their front book covers. Misdirection ? I wonder…..
Guess we’ll have to find out in August. I do tend to over-think sometimes.

I thought that, too, Anna, and I think it’s deliberate – it seems so similar! I’m also noticing all the warnings – “NEVER go into the woods alone”… over and over… This is different from my childhood, though we didn’t have large woods nearby. If you got lost, even a small child would only have to walk for 20 minutes in any direction to come out… and I don’t remember ever getting lost in the woods we played in.

One thing I am noticing is the contrasting descriptions of the characters in Brutal Telling. Olivier is described as greedy, weak, a liar. He is also kind hearted, thoughtful, the first to bring soup or visit someone in hospital, to read to the weak and tired. And Ruth shows both her tenderness and irascibility.

We love the characters because they are like us; good and weak, kind and sharp, doing things only explicable by insanity (you are definitely not alone there Cathryne). Louise writes so we can identify with and love characters with imperfections and flaws but who are capable of great love and kindness. People who know jealousy and greed and anger but we can embrace it because it isn’t everything they are. Maybe we can embrace ourselves better because of this.

I think Ruth was especially worried at the time of her dinner party about:

Olivier, a loved friend, because she knows and says that he is weak, greedy, and will habitually lie to protect himself. She says the murderer is setting Olivier up and rather successfully.

Jean Guy, who she recognizes as a kindred soul, deeply troubled and fragile. She leaves lines of her poem around as she tries to help him. She can’t address him face to face because he deliberately drives her away, terrorizing her with her own poetry!

Rosa, her beloved child/friend/pet, because winter is coming and Rosa should go. Is it too silly to think of Ruth learning to love herself and take care of herself by doing that for Rosa? It almost seems to me that Rosa is partly Ruth too.

Now that I think about Ruth and her gentle, nurturing side, especially in this book, I think of Ruth and the asshole saint as being similar in MANY ways. Visiting Ruth at home, “in her natural habitate” is not much different than visiting the saint in the hermit’s cabin.

See what you started, Julie?

Oh, Julie, I wouldn’t completely forget the dinner party or Ruth at Massey’s studio, a good connection! Remembering her past behaviors, circumstances (as we know them), and her poetry makes it even more exciting to look forward to August and what we might learn next about Ruth and how it may or may not relate back to what we’ve observed already, especially things that confused us.

I’d forgotten the suet covered wth seeds! Rosa was just as important as everyone else. That, in itself, takes on much more meaning now that we know Rosa’s importance in the books that came after.

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