Gamache Series Open Discussion

Join us here in The Bistro for a discussion on the entire Gamache series. Feel free to ask or answer any questions about any of the books or the series as a whole.

Paul Hochman

Discussion on “Gamache Series Open Discussion

  1. Paul Hochman says:

    Hi All,

    The first chapter of THE NATURE OF THE BEAST has been posted here:

    • Barbara H. Johnson says:

      I just read it. I would never have guessed such a beginning. It’s wonderful—Quick everyone— to the link with all haste.

      • Millie says:

        Me either, Barbara!

        I’m still in CA, ladies and gents. Sorry I haven’t had much time to post, but I’m trying to keep up with them.

        Food… Anna, take note: I saw a video interview some time back where Louise said she keeps a cookbook by her laptop and dives in there wondering, “What shall the characters eat today???” She also mentioned the characters eat away but she doesn’t gain the weight. I loved that!

    • Millie says:

      WOW! Indeed. There goes our speculating it might be Bean! Appears to be a resident. If he’s fourteen, like I think I read in a synopsis, then this is going to be one incredibly engrossing tale. Well done, ‘Madame Louise’! I’m so hooked already.

      • KB says:

        I didn’t think it would be Bean. I’m not sure why Mariana would move to Three Pines. And, for some reason, I’m convinced that Bean is a girl. I’m looking forward to meeting another child with a rich imaginary life. The introductory chapter is already resonating – I recall having similar fantasies where I had to run and hide to avoid being shot “in the war”. I wonder if that child also flew (with a breaststroke like motion) through his dreams to avoid pursuit??? Well done, Ms. Penny. I will be out buying NOTB the day it shows up in stores. :)

        • Millie says:

          Hi KB! Nice to ‘see’ you again. I think some of us thought Bean might simply be visiting Aunt Clara. Not necessarily that they moved to Three Pines. Mariana probably couldn’t work from the Village.

          • Jan says:

            Hi again Millie. Just a tad of speculation today. :) No need to respond unless you feel the urge. I realize this is a very busy weekend for so many of us. )

            So, here goes: Do you think it could it be possible that Louise is teasing us with a “flashback” in this first chapter? If so, lots of ways this story could unfold and there still be a role for Bean….very scary and intriguing!

  2. Cathryne Spencer says:

    What a wonderful surprise! I settled myself into bed to listen to The Brutal Telling and decided to visit The Bistro first. There I found Paul’s announcement, the first chapter of The Nature of the Beast! And what a first chapter! I can’t wait to find out what Laurent Le Page discovered. Wow!

    • Millie says:

      Some are speculating on Louise’s Facebook page that perhaps Larent may have found a skeleton. I don’t think I would react with wow – my like a brain freeze and run like the dickens away from it, but then I’m not a boy. That would be a good reason for Gamache to get involved, tho. I hope it’s not Ruth’s husband! And why the reference to the lion again. That was part of Ruth’s poem which she gave to Jean Guy in pieces which showed up again in TLWH. So many questions and the end of August seems so far away!

      • Millie says:

        Sorry for the many typos. I hope it makes sense regardless…
        Julie, my mom and I just returned from watching the world premiere of “Pride and Prejudice, the Musical” in LA! It was wonderfully done. I thought you’d get a chuckle out of that. I must admit I was a bit skeptical but came away impressed. Who knew? lol…

        • Julie says:

          Millie – how wonderful! One of the writers – the lady who did the music – of that musical just moved to our area last year, and she will be talking about her experiences both writing the show, and living for a few months at Chawton House (the big house her brother owned while Jane, her mother and her sister lived in the cottage attached to the property) and studying the music of the era kept in the library there. Can’t wait.

          • Millie says:

            Oh, how I would love to hear her speak. When you say she wrote the music, do you mean she wrote the libretto or lyrics only or composed the score and lyrics? It was so well done and the musical numbers flowed in and out of the dialogue perfectly. I was so impressed at how the essence of multiple chapters were conveyed in thru a song! I hope you get a chance to see the play some day.

      • Anna says:

        I thought it was a skeleton too. But I was more curious about the cassette. How long has it been since I heard that word? I am guessing it is audio not video…

        Someone asked about The origin of Phyrne. It is a ancient Greek word meaning Toad. It was given to the Greek courtesan Mnesarete because she had a sallow complexion.

    • Anna says:

      Hi Catherine. I’m reading Bury Your Dead. It was my first and it is still wonderful. Love the idea of Christmas in Quebec. Adding that to my to do list. I thought I would have the afternoon the read but somehow life never quite works that way.

  3. Anna says:

    Just noticed that Miss Fisher’s house number is 221 B….not sure if it is Baker St!

  4. Barbara H. Johnson says:

    Anna, Oh to be in Melbourne for the Phryne Festival! A link to it was on the link you gave about the Miss Fisher movie and season3. That would be great.
    The pimento cheese I made was never spicy but that I buy certainly is. I had never eaten the spicy kind until a few years ago. I really like it though.
    BBQ is wonderful. A dear friend and Bible teacher was reared orthodox Jewish. He converted a few years after he married the granddaughter of a Baptist minister. He said he couldn’t believe how good BBQ was when he first tasted it ( hope that doesn’t offend anyone). As luck would have it, he came here to live with his daughter and her house was across the street from a Masonic Lodge known for BBQ they cook twice a year as a fund raiser. BBQs are often held as fund raisers here. BBQ in this area is usually pork. Texas BBQ is usually beef. Both are lovely.

    • Anna says:

      Maybe one day you will be in Melbourne Barbara and I will be in the south getting my plateful of BBQS! Of course we have BBQs here but it is not the same as the southern BBQ from what I can tell.

      Last nights episode was good fun and a bit of drama and a glimpse at Phyrne’s family.

  5. Julie says:

    Oh! I’m caught, but now I have to wait so long for more! This has the same feel, the same dread, that I got from The Brutal Telling. To me, it’s almost the carvings come to life… there is a sense that this is all imagination, yet… there’s something there.

    Love the introduction of music – had to go back to hear Neil Young’s “Old Man” once again – and to read the lyrics… I’d forgotten really how clear his voice was. Interesting that, while he is always “there” in my memories of music from my youth, he doesn’t stand tall – he just is “there”… riding a horse with no name… :D

    Anna – thanks for the Phryne info – it never occurred to me to google it. Toad! Pfft! However, I do see the glamour of the story of the courtesan… hee hee. Some people are so clever to bring in such disparate things while they’re writing things that will mostly be taken at face value… it’s like they’re writing the nuance for themselves…

    Back to Louise’s chapter. I’m very excited by this beginning… I think this is going to be one of the most powerful of her books – and I absolutely cannot wait to see how it plays out… Good catch on the Lion being introduced again – it is also the stuffed animal that Annie gave to Jean Guy, and that he clings to, both as something “lion-hearted” but also as a way to cling to Annie. I also now have “wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh” running through my brain, hahaha.

    • Millie says:

      Than you, but I had forgotten about the stuffed lion! I do hope Jean Guy is part of this story.

      Since every story takes place on a particular season, does honeysuckle only grow in the summer? Time to google yet another thing. I love this group!

      • Barbara H. Johnson says:

        Yes, only in summer. I saw some blooming on several fences today and thought of you.
        I have audio cassettes of Sherlock Holmes, both the original stories and the ones produced for radio. Once, I was even more captivated by them than I am LP’s books. I too need to have some video tapes converted to DVD.

  6. Julie says:

    As to what Laurent finds – to me, it almost felt like he’d found an escape there – a portal to another world, or at least, a tunnel to safety… almost like what he saw glinting in there was sunlight. Of course, it could “just” be treasure, hahaha.

    • Millie says:

      I keep trying to figure out how this may connect to Ruth! I thought of ‘treasure’ also, but what if it’s both? And I too am curious about the ‘cassette’. I have so many lovingly boxed up. I keep telling myself to get them converted to CD’s before they are ruined by use and time…

  7. Millie says:

    Jan, I’m glad I scrolled up and saw your speculation! What a brilliant thought; a flashback. That could explain a lot – the cassette, the rifle… Kids these days don’t ‘play war’. But I remember my brother did when he was a kid. Ruth’s husband? We know nothing about him. Thanks for the mental fun.

    • Jan says:

      Taking the speculation a bit further, Millie….( ha ha) …perhaps this “Laurent” is actually an ADULT, returning to some special secret place in the woods near Three Pines where he had acted out his secret 9-year-old play fantasies decades earlier?

      I’ve been re-reading some very old Agatha Christie books this month and find that my imagination/logic has been functioning in overdrive as a result. Guess we’ll have to wait until August to nail down the truth, eh what? Whatever might be I know we will be taken by Louise on another thrilling adventure. Can’t wait!

      • Millie says:

        Another good speculation, Jan. Oh my excitement level is rising. So many possibilities, yet I have no doubt Louise will surprise us all, yet again.

  8. Barbara H. Johnson says:

    Did anyone else watch Big Bang Theory last night? If you recorded it to watch later, BEWARE of Spoilers! I think Penny and Leonard turned around and went back home. I thought the jump to Shelton buying a ring a bit much. I wonder if he tells Leonard. Poor Raj, he is too gentle for that woman. I thought Stewart would get more of a life after the store was rebuilt. Hope Amy isn’t out of the picture. I like Maykim (?) as an actress and as a person. Wow Barbara, you sound like a soap opera junkie. Here again, characters in one story are so real while I really don’t get involved with most others.

    • Julie says:

      Barbara, we watch that program religiously, and those characters are some of the most real to me on TV. I was dismayed when Penny and Leonard started fighting, yet Leonard’s “confession” was very typical of him – every time he’s ever done something like that, he’s been compelled to tell the truth. I wonder at his timing, however… DID he want to sabotage it all because he knows they can’t last?

      I was so sad to see Sheldon’s wondering what to do with the ring… to me, it rang true – he has been changing quite a bit since Amy has come into his life, and I can see that he might be ready to begin a long engagement. He had been pondering Penny and Leonard’s seemingly endless engagement – I think it reassured him that he could take the next step without having to change things too much. I was so pleased earlier this season when he told Amy he loved her.

      Poor Raj – I am glad he is trying to find that he can voice his discomfort in his relationship – and I agree that this girl is not gentle enough for him. Of course, even the sweet ones aren’t really – look at Bernadette, hahaha. He will find his way. And Stewart – I’m not sure if there’s a lid for that pot at all… but I think it makes perfect sense for him not to want to move away from a place where he was happy, as he certainly seemed to be with Howard’s mother… I do like the way they honored the actress who played her by having her death play into the story, and of course, by having some comic scenes, but also some heartwarming scenes as well. The actress has cracked me up since she had a very short part on Seinfeld. Her voice is distinctive (though everyone on the show seems to do a pretty good imitation). I was sad to hear of her death, because she wasn’t much older than I am, so it was a shock.

      All in all, I was very sad that things were left on such down notes with most of the relationships. I’m hoping things will get worked out in the first episode next year… after all, we still have a few years to go in everyone’s contracts…

      • Barbara H. Johnson says:

        I hadn’t thought about it but yes it makes sense. Since Penny and Leonard became engaged but still haven’t set the date maybe Shelton would be comfortfable with being engaged if he wasn’t faced with a date looming over him. Bernadette is small and pretty but does have a mouth on her. She says what she thinks. I’m looking forward to the new season in the Fall.

  9. Cathryne Spencer says:

    I think that Laurent has the actual cassette tape referred to in The Brutal Telling, the one Gamache played over and over to put Annie to sleep as a baby. As he looks for a place to hide the cassette, Laurent hums the song his father sings to him every night at bedtime. Is the cassette song one that Laurent’s sister plays over and over, driving him crazy? Maybe he is solving the problem by hiding the cassette. When he sees the glint in the hole, he forgets his pursuers in the excitement of the moment. That makes me think he has been playing a game, and is not in a real life and death situation. Certainly there may be a skeleton, but I saw gold glinting, a treasure to this boy! Anyway, it’s something surprising and unexpected. My thought was that it’s something Ruth put there decades ago to hide a secret, hers or someone else’s. I worry that it may be something she did to try to help, but will now cause hurt. I, too, hope it’s not her husband! But I have sometimes wondered if she ever had a husband.

    • Anna says:

      I think a Brutal Telling reread will follow Bury Your Dead for me.

      • Millie says:

        I think I need a total reread. I only joined when TLWH was being discussed.

        • Julie says:

          I certainly need to reread The Brutal Telling. I don’t even remember a cassette tape, so I’d better be ready, hahaha. I will start tonight.

    • Millie says:

      Oh goodness, that sounds so Ruth-like, Catheryne! She did tell Jane Neil’s parents about Jane planning to elope with the logger. And in TLWH we discussed ‘good intentions gone awry’… But surely the women who inspired the ‘three graces’ would have known if Ruth actually had been married or not? No one in Three Pines, so far, has indicated she never was married. But if she has vintage treasures in her basement, what else may she have hidden perhaps in the woods. The synopsis does indicate Ruth has a big secret that unfolds…
      The magic of stories is made even more satisfying with a group like this!

      • Amy says:

        Hi to all! I have been following the Bistro comments for a while; definitely not as expressive as all of you, but I think that in Still Life, Ruth is referred to as Ruth Zardo, nee Kemp, indicating she was married at some point.

  10. Barbara H. Johnson says:

    Julie, I loved your deviled egg story. I LOL and my husband commented that I must be in the Bistro again. I do love this site. I am amazed that we have so much in common. I feel I’m with lifelong friends. “Lifelong friend”, that’s what some of my friends and I have started saying so as not to use the words “Old Friend”.

    • Anna says:

      I call them Midnight friends Barbara, the sort you can rely on at any hour.

      • Millie says:

        I like that, Anna. “Midnight Friends”… I was thinking of Barbara’s “Lifelong fiends’, and I took it literally then realized I’ve moved around so much, I don’t have friends that span my entire life. A good portion of it, But not a lifetime. Although, some fairly new friends feel as tho I’ve known them ‘forever’. So lifetime, midnight or forever friends.. I fell lucky to have them, and all of you at the Bistro. :-D

      • Barbara H. Johnson says:

        Anna, “Midnight Friends”, That really does express real friendship. Millie, I forget that there are so many people who have moved numerous times. Living in a military town, I should remember . When I taught Sixth Grade, some students had moved 5 or 6 times in their 11 years. There are advantages to living in different states and countries though. I have always been so curious about people and the world in general that living or even traveling widely would have been precious to me.

        • Millie says:

          Barbara, seems there are pro’s and cons to everything. :-D

        • Anna says:

          My daughter moved six times by sixth grade but only three places. We actually had two houses in different places because we moved back and forth so much. She had also changed school five times. All she wanted was to be in one place for high school which we have been. It’s why she and I will stay here for a few months when hubby moves to America

    • Julie says:

      Oh, that reminds me of Anne of Green Gables and Kindred Spirits, and her bosom friend, Diana Barry…

      • Anna says:

        Anne of Green Gables was lovely. Another place on the list to visit

        • Julie says:

          Yes – that’s a lovely little trip, Anna. Prince Edward Island seemed steeped in time, and left alone by “mainlanders” when I visited 25 years ago. Since then, the much-feared bridge has been built and it’s much easier for people from “away” to get there, so it might have changed some… Green Gables is kept up by the Parks Department, however, and is probably just as it always was. And the lovely pink beaches are still the same, I’m sure.

  11. Barbara H. Johnson says:

    Happy Mother’s Day to all the Mothers out there.
    Pink beaches mean Bermuda to me. I would think it is just as beautiful on PEI.

    • Anna says:

      Happy Mothers Day.
      I didn’t know Bermuda had pink beaches?,

      • Julie says:

        Neither did I. To me, Bermuda is colorful houses all in a row, though I’ve never been there, so could have someplace else in mind, entirely.

        • Barbara H. Johnson says:

          They have the most beautiful houses. We took pictures and bought a stack of postcards. I was under their spell. The pink beaches were unbelievable. I bought small vials of the sand as souvenirs and tiles with pastel houses.

  12. Julie says:

    The Brutal Telling – started my re-read last night – didn’t get far, as I didn’t want to move on and forget some of my first impressions on the re-read. Louise is a master at building tension fast. What I found very interesting – SPOILER ALERT—- IF YOU HAVEN’T READ THE BRUTAL TELLING, DON’T READ BEYOND HERE – was how well she convinced me that it was the Hermit telling the story… reading it again, and knowing it was Olivier, I tried to figure out how she did it – now it seems like I should never have thought it was the Hermit, yet, I swallowed that, hook, line and sinker! Excellent mis-direction. We have just gotten to the discover of the body – Olivier has just told his first lie -Gabri asks “Who is it?” and Olivier says, “I don’t know.” They are waiting for the Surete – along with Myrna, who found the body in the Bistro. Olivier has lit a fire in each fireplace, even though it’s only Labour Day weekend. You’ll recall that later, this is a major plot point, but now, it seems the most natural thing in the world – it’s early, early morning, and the murder has put a chill in the air, to say the least…

    We switch then, to the Gamache apartment in Montreal, and to Annie and Beauvoir arguing passionately! Armand remembers Annie as a baby and how only the old tape of “wimoweh, wimoweh…” would calm her howling… He then thinks of her as a lion… this is earlier than I’d remembered for the lion metaphor to come in, and it’s amazing to me how Louise has woven all these things together. How I love these books and these characters!

    And now, with “wimoweh” and “Old Man take a look at my life” burrowing into my brain, I must wait, and wait and WAIT for the next chapter of The Nature of the Beast!

  13. Anna says:

    I just happened to be looking at Louise’s Facebook page when this appeared. As far as I can work out you have to be in US and Canada to enter so go for it!

  14. Anna says:

    Thanks Paul. I saw that then read the conditions of entry which said it was for US and Canada only. Confusing! But I shall email.

    Don’t you ever sleep Paul!!

  15. Anna says:

    Ah well at least you have the Bistro to relax in occasionally. It’s bedtime for me.

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