Join us here in The Bistro for a discussion on the entire Gamache series. Feel free to ask or answer any questions about any of the books or the series as a whole.
Join us here in The Bistro for a discussion on the entire Gamache series. Feel free to ask or answer any questions about any of the books or the series as a whole.
Discussion on “The Bistro”
Anna, thank you for recommending the Elizabeth George book – I’ll look into that. I was interested in your saying that in the process of creating, it develops its own energy and that keeps you going. I have heard artists and writers say that sort of thing. Your characters and stories develop their own momentum. I’d say when that happens, they have got beyond being simply exercises of the mind, but have come alive.
Julie, They are lovely. What a shame the owners do not have similar houses facing them. Many of the Victorian houses on one street here in Augusta are used as lawyers offices, restaurants, and other businesses. They don’t have a good view either. Although, the median is nice specially when the Azaleas bloom. Other streets have blocks of Victorian Houses mixed with more recent but equally attractive houses and gardens. Architecture is so exciting. I have studied the magnificent facades of some of our buildings for hours at the time. I also find Victorian Cemetery art ( markers) beautiful.
Barbara – I’ve had the Victorian bug, too. We have a little row of “painted ladies” in Seattle, in the most unlikely and unromantic of streets. There must be a covenant when you buy into one of them, as they are always well-maintained and painted up pretty. Here’s a Google Street View of them: http://tinyurl.com/kmm2np8
They are in a little row in a spot that is leading into an industrial area, and across from a community college, so no pretty views for them. But I always love driving by.
Hi, LIZZY, A family milestone. Glad you remembered us. Drop by anytime.
JULIE , I build houses in my mind too. I was a fanatic about every thing Victorian at one point. None of the many Victorian houses here were exactly as I would have wanted. I took ideas from 4 or 5 and built my own…….in my mind, of course. At another time, I was enthralled with Art Deco and still am. I notice any design or feature on TV or magazine that is Art Deco. I think a condo in Art Deco would be beautiful.
Loving the talk of architecture Julie and Barbara. The Victorians are gorgeous. Why do you think we like certain styles? I know I like architectural detail, and well shaped rooms with cozy spaces.
I was thinking about sense of place and wondered why you can feel as though you belong in a house the first time you walk in, as opposed to the idea of attachement developing over time? The house we now live in was exactly one of those places that we had to have because it felt so warm and welcoming. Places do develop their own spirits and personalities, their own energy, separate to our interaction with them.
Anna – I think that once you get going on a creative project it absolutely creates its own energy. I know of several things that seemed like huge jobs and I kind of dragged my heels about starting them, but once I was into them, I got enthralled, and just kept working and working… The best results always came from that kind of work for me!
Lizzy – congratulations on the upcoming wedding. I know it must be overwhelming, but fun, too! So glad you popped in!
Sylvia, I have been enjoying the DCI Banks TV shows – so I should really check out the books – I will never be able to read them all, but I love Yorkshire, too. I haven’t been there much – just twice, for visits, but the beauty of the place is astounding, and of course, the wonderful All Creatures Great and Small TV show showcased them so beautifully. My husband and I watched them all again just a year or so ago, and they were just as enchanting the second time around. If I immerse myself in books or TV shows like that, I start to talk like the characters, and tha’ wouldn’t believe how I started to sound after that, hahahaha.
Nancy, I’ve often thought that I didn’t give Mitford a good chance and that I should pick it up again sometime. Maybe I will. I don’t know if I still have the book or if I gave it away – I need to go through all my old books and start finding new homes for them. I have a friend who collects books to be given to prison inmates, and I’m sure I could load up a few shelves there. I also need to take some to the local library sale, and then, of course, I do need to save some to swap in the Paperback swap club. My goal is to not have any physical books on my shelves – lots of Kindle books, and lots that just come in, get read, and go out… Exceptions are made for special books, of course.
Anna – I think you are right on with your “sense of place” theory – now I really can’t wait to read your book! I always think I’m a little bit odd in that I seem to have an emotional reaction/relationship with everything, hahahaha. But I know that places do that to lots of people – it’s why people who are house hunting can walk into a house and just feel a connection to it for no good reason – it’s “home” (a subject we’ve explored a bit before). I get that from lots of different kinds of buildings, and when I’m building “castles in the air”, I make them lots of interesting different kinds. For awhile, my heart’s desire was a log cabin, but my latest is a condo decorated in Art Deco style – I even know what kind of tile goes where, and what kind of countertops in the kitchen. I think it would be the coolest retirement place! 😀
Love it Julie, I am always building houses in my mind. Do you know Houzz? Great website and app that is like having a million glossy magazines to browse.
I will have to hurry up and finish my book so you can read it. Maybe I can publish it here….paragraph per post….tee hee
Anna – I ran across a lot of Houzz pictures when I was Pinteresting Art Deco pics. The kitchen and baths in Art Deco are such wonders. I’m glad I’m not the only one building those castles in the air. I have also spent time in imaginary beach houses, English cottages (especially with thatched roofs) and Victorian homes, but some were totally imaginary in that, if confronted with a thatched roof, for instance, I’d probably run, thinking of what’s living in that roof! Lovely to look at, though. I know I could never afford the beach house I have in my mind’s eye, and a Victorian wouldn’t be practical as I get older. But that condo – now, I could definitely LIVE there! 😀
Julie, I think one of the wonderful things about books is that “all the best people” don’t agree. A given book may receive many, many great reviews, but there are pretty much always some who were not so impressed and, luckily, are willing to say why. That keeps us all thinking and re-examining our own point of view. Also, I think we should feel comfortable not liking a book that someone we respect loves. We don’t expect to love the same movies or pieces of art or music.
Congratulations Lizzy on the upcoming wedding! I am sure life is very hectic. How nice you were able to pop in the The Bistro and say hi.
Just poking my nose in to say a quick hi. Life is snowballing for me. Many things going on, not to mention my son getting married on the 25!
Sending best wishes to Anne and Millie!
Anna, your brother sounds like my husband. “Was there milk for the coffee?” And I’ll bet he was very glad he had noticed and helped you! A different kind of mind? My husband is an engineer, so there you are.
Cathryne my brother is a scientist. Pedantic yes, but then so am I so I shouldn’t complain. The difficulty I have discovered that while writing the book I see the scenes rendered complete in my head, like movies. When I go back and re read to edit, the scene plays again in my head and I assume I have written in details that I haven’t, or I don’t even think of the details that aren’t there because “I can see them” and forget they aren’t on the page.
I have to be grateful to my brother but I have told him to make a note of issues and see if they are still there after I edit because I might not be up to hearing critique just yet. He was good about it. The best bit is he keeps asking to see more so that is encouraging.
Interestingly, I have very few authors I would follow anywhere, and most are no longer alive, so I know exactly where I’d be following, and, of course, that’s not the same thing at all. LP is the only one I know of. I have a confession that will just flabbergast some of you – I tried the Ladies No. 1 Detective Agency (read the first book) AND the Mitford series (read the first few chapters) and they did nothing for me. Just kind of laid there. I don’t know why. I SHOULD like them (all the best people do) from all accounts. I’ve been hearing of them for years from friends and family, and… meh. So I guess I’m the odd duck. For me, LP’s works contain a good story, wonderful characters, and a compelling setting unique to Canada. I think it’s the setting, and the acknowledgment that Canada is a different place, that drew me here in the first place, and keeps me here. Even though I’ve never been to Quebec, and Quebec, within Canada, is unique as well, there is enough “Canadian-ness” that it really speaks to me.
Julie, there are books other people love that I just can’t get into, very much like you. The Canadianess of LPs books is a big draw for me too. I think some books are like places that draw us back and different places draw different people.
It’s odd but I have this theme in my book and I used the phrase ‘sense of place’ and then went and did a lot of reading on the topic. I am giving some of book away here, but there is a lot of research in architecture and environmental psychology on sense of place. Spaces become places through our emotional interaction with them. A fellow called Shamai delineated different levels of attachment to place from placeless to willing to die for a place. A place can be a chair, a room, a house or a country.
I think LPs books give us a sense of place which is a big part of their attraction….they bring us home. That is obvious from our talk of being Three Piners and even our love here of the Bistro.
Julie, my husband started At Home in Mitford and couldn’t get into it. Maybe because he was a minister and still working. (Too close to home.) Anyway, after he retired he picked up the last book which at that time was Home to Holly Springs, and after reading it he just sailed through the rest. I couldn’t believe it. (I like things in order.) I must confess that the second book was my favorite for a long time since things really ‘pick up’ in it. So you might have better luck by starting there….if you want to try again. I too have many favorites who have died which means that I maintain a collection of their books because the libraries no longer stock them. Have you ever read Eleanor Taylor Bland, Bruce Alexander , Tony Hillerman or the Thurlos (David and Aimee…sadly Aimee died this year). I like the characters in these books and for me the mystery is secondary. But, at the end of the day, no one compares to Louise. She is exceptional…as we all can see.
Julie, while I was raving on about the Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency series, one of my friends told me she just didn’t get it! I can’t understand what there was not to get, but I guess it’s a good thing we don’t all think alike – how boring the world would be! I do love the Canadianness of Louise’s books as well. I was born in England and came to Canada as a young woman, lived in Quebec’s Eastern Townships for a few years and then near Montreal. I love Canada as only a “convert” can! I consider the Eastern Townships my first Canadian home – now I live in the Maritimes, which is also a very homey place. Interesting about place and what and how much it means to people. I’m so thrilled to have found these wonderful books. I was advised by friends to read them in order, so I bought the first nine books all at once and read them in order. With the overarching theme of the “Arnot case” and Francoeur it made sense to read as that was gradually revealed. I have also loved the books of Peter Robinson, who places his stories in Yorkshire, England. I was there on a trip with my husband once (I’m London-born myself), and I just loved the Dales. His stories are fast-paced and I love the members of the homicide team – DCI Alan Banks, DI Annie Cabott, and DS Winsome Jackman (who is another beautiful black Jamaican, but younger than Myrna). He has a new book coming out the 28th of this month. They are very entertaining, but not on the level of literature that Louise’s books are. She is such a gem and we are so lucky to have found her! We are also blessed in knowing something about her, and her sharing her personal life. I’m sure she knows that we care about her and her husband as people; that was quite a risk to be open about difficulties she has had to deal with. I’m grateful this is a place where several of us have felt safe and able to share.
Sylvia, I was writing a minute ago and everything went away. I don’t think it posted in a strange place. Whatever, I’ll try again. I was saying that I am a most unflattering shade of green after reading your post. I have always been an anglophile (don’t know why). I become so involved in books that my speech goes into English mode. My sister and I love Brit coms and mysteries on TV. We often pepper our conversations with English colloquialisms (just between the two of us–not in public). After reading several English novels consecutively, my spelling jumps to the English rather than American.
Canada is so beautiful and I would love to see more of it. We have enjoyed every trip there and found the people very patient with all of my questions. I have internet searched and read travel books about The Eastern Townships and the Maritimes and of course Quebec….coast to coast to be truthful.
I, too, am grateful for Louise Penny, her publishers and all who have made this literary journey possible. I hope all concerned know what a wonder it all is. So much more than ever
dreamed I am sure.
Julie, I had to laugh at your last paragraph. What fools they would be. I hope the next story will be more normal or a least what passes for normal in Three Pines. I have some not yet well- developed ideas of threads that could be picked up. I’ll share when they are better formed.
Wouldn’t you love to read LP’s “story boards”. I would like to know just how much she had plotted out by the end of A Fatal Grace. She must have plotted many books ahead for the Francoeur arc. I can imagine outlines with notations of “threads to be placed in book # whatever”.
Interesting, Barbara! I have no idea whatsoever of how the creative process works. Whether it comes in big chunks and an author can see several books ahead, or just enough for the book he or she is on at the moment. Somewhere along the line, we talked about the brain – I am predominantly left-brained, meaning that I’m more organizational than creative. So any insights into the creative process interests me a great deal. That’s what I have enjoyed about these discussions – I have grown in my understanding of how Louise has created the books. Thanks to all for all your thoughts!
Sylvia, if you are interested in the creative process of writing then Elizabeth George has written a book on the topic called Write Away. My husband is reading it and suggested it to me. I don’t do the planning she does, at least not on paper. The stories write themselves. I am keen to write another book as one of the characters seems to be busting to tell her story and I want to know what it is. I think if I planned it out I would get bored writing because I would know too much of the story. Hope that makes sense.
I did hear LP comment in one of her videos about planning the story arc. I am not sure if she knew exactly how it would play out until she started writing but I sensed she had some plan.
Anna, I’m so glad to hear another character wants her story told. I think authors differ in the ways they form their stories. From what I have read about the process some are methodical and some let the story tell itself. I’ll check out the Elizabeth George book just to see her take on the process.
Good thoughts to you and your Mother.
Thanks Barbara. Always appreciate your gentle kindness.
I have to find the time and energy to finish book one and work on book two.
Creativity is odd in that it needs energy to get started but, for me, often generates its own energy for quite a while after I get started. Does anyone else find that with creative activities?
Interesting that there are some authors we each are willing to follow anywhere on faith. For me, that would include L. P., Donna Leon, Andrea Camilleri, Fred Varges, Deborah Crombie, James Herriott, L. M. Boston, Alexander McCall Smith … I’m sure there are more, but life calls. Later.
Cathryne, so glad you mentioned Alexander McCall Smith! I absolutely love the Number 1 Ladies Detective Agency series! I also enjoyed the Isabel Dalhousie series, but have got tired of her constant philosophizing. But the African series is pure delight! I haven’t enjoyed his various other series’ as much. I had been meaning to ask if anyone had read McCall Smith.
Sylvia, I love the African stories of McCall-Smith too and I DID NOT want to read them. I don’t know how many times I passed them up in the library. BUT, I was reading to a friend and had run out of books that I thought would interest her so I asked the librarians for help. They told me how much people seemed to enjoy the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency so in desperation I checked it out …and was soon hooked. Now comes the interesting part. A few years ago I bought the TV series on DVD. This was amazing. I have never watched anything that was exactly what I imagined from the books but this is it. They did add an extra character but all of the original ones are just as I pictured them. The only disappointment is that evidently the series only ran for one season. I was looking forward to more. So if anyone is looking for a series that successfully made the transition from book to screen, this is it.
On another note, I just discovered the Bistro this evening. Thank you Paul. I was really missing Three Pines and the discussions. Guess that’s why I came back to the site and discovered it’s NOT OVER!! Hurrah!
Also, I’m sorry about all the struggles that you are going through, Anna and Millie. I kept thinking of Julian of Norwich…And all will be well, and all will be well…
Finally, thanks for the laughter, Julie (I think it’s Julie) in you paragraph about the fools passing through Three Pines! We all needed that.
Good night all and rest well.
Hi Nancy. This is just what I was hoping for. I want people who posted earlier to find The Bistro. Drop by whenever you can…..The Bistro is always open.
Hi Nancy, glad you found the Bistro!! Love Julian of Norwich. I often have the phrase running through my mind!
Nancy, funny you should say you hadn’t wanted to read the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency books. I bought a boxed set of the first three books from Readers’ Digest, and they sat on my bookshelf for ages. One day, months later, when I was looking for something to do, I thought of those books and thought I might as well give them a try. I fell in love with Precious Ramotswe right away and couldn’t put the book down. I read the three in the set and then went looking for more. McCall Smith had written several more by then, so I had a marvellous time – just like with these wonderful Louise Penny books – by the time I heard about them she had written the first nine books so I just bought them all and read them in order. Now I have to wait… oh, dear!
I always love when art plays a role, sometimes bigger and sometimes smaller, but I’m ready to follow L. P. wherever and however she sees the characters going next.
I have liked when characters have reappeared in appropriate-seeming ways, like Gilles, Odille, Billy Williams, the Saint and others. At first, I was very resistant to Nicole popping up, but now I’m looking forward to her presence again. And, of course, Jerome and Therese. Well, patience is a virtue….
Also those two precious old ladies who went into the storm on Lac Brume to die with Emilie – Bea and Kaye. They survived, but where are they now? They were giving their lives for Crie.
Paul, After reading all the posts for Still Life and A Fatal Grace, I noticed the link to this site on page one of The Cruelest Month. What A Great Idea. I have noticed that some who posted very insightful comments for the first two books have not contributed lately. Of course, some may be reading posts but not writing for many reasons. I hope they will learn of the Bistro and join us. Some mentioned that they had read all the books and would like to discuss them as a whole. Now is the perfect time and this the perfect place.
Wholeheartedly agree, Barbara!
Can anyone tell me how Inspector Gamache inherited his dog, Henry? I believe it happened in volume 2 or 3 in the series. I don’t have the books anymore and it is really bothering me.
Suzy, go to the end of page 82 and you’ll find my answer to your question!
Oh, you know, I just figured all those people are just “still in the village”, but this or that particular story doesn’t touch on them – but some will be quite changed – the Mundins, for one, and Sophie, for another – she might not ever really “come back” to Three Pines – she had been just visiting on a school break, as I remember. But those that are still there – the Crofts, and Carole, the Parra’s – I figure they are around, doing their thing. But I haven’t given them much thought, that’s for sure, hahaha. I wonder, too, about the Brunel’s – if there’s been any fallout due to their helping Armand. I expect not, but you never know. After Francoeur, it makes sense to me that Brunel would be the top person. And yet – I can’t help thinking that, even though a lot of people would have been arrested at the end of How the Light Gets In, there must still be a lot of people in the rank and file, who bought Francoeur’s line of thinking and would be resistant to Gamache’s people doing well in the Surete, so there may still be some fallout there. Still – I think it’s time for something completely different. (yes, I hear the Monty Python theme song here, too).
The one I wonder about, and would love to hear about, is Crie. Has enough time passed that she has been able to be helped and is living more in the real world now? I’d love to hear that she is doing better and that there’s some hope for her.
I, too, wonder about Jane’s house – wouldn’t it be perfect if the artists of the village (the ones who were doing the exhibit in Still Life – there must be some sort of “association” there) could take it over as their administrative and exhibit space? Of course, it might be lying in wait for Chartrand. If a romance begins between Chartrand and Clara, she might let him rent Jane’s house for a gallery. We don’t know if she has really “gone with” an agent or gallery owner yet – maybe that will come yet.
I was just reading some of the past notes (while looking for Chartrand’s name – I can’t keep a name in my head to save my life), and noticed that quite a lot of people are very tired of the art theme and the in-fighting within the art world, though most noted that it’s pretty true to life. It will be good to see a more “regular” story next time. I’m hoping it will be in Three Pines, but of course, who do I want to kill off? Or see go to jail for murder? Maybe best if a pair of visitors are passing through and think that this sleepy little village would be the perfect place to get away with murder. Fools!
Well, Julie, that did happen with Lillian Dyson being murdered by Denis Fortin. Neither of them belonged to the village; they both came for the event of Clara’s vernissage party. So maybe some other event can bring people in. Also there must be a lot more people in the village, out on the roads that lead from the village, whom we haven’t even met. I’m very curious to see where Louise will take us next.
Anna, feel free to email me at
if you ever need / want to talk in depth about having a parent with dementia or any of the really ‘off topic’ & painful ‘things’ we seem to have in common.
Thanks Millie. I will drop you a line. I am cognizant of derailing the the conversation here.